City Problems
Win, Michael and Goron talk about social issues and problems with their cities being so big.
Speakers: Win, Michael, Goron
Transcript
Track 1
Michael: So howâs crime in the big cities, like in Rome? How is crime in Rome?
Goron: Well, many people are complaining for the huge immigration. Like we have many foreigners and illegal foreigners actually. They come in with boats during the night, theyâre landing, and we cannot control, we cannot stop them because Italy is in the middle of Europe. So from Northern Africa, for many like â I wouldnât say underdeveloped countries but the countries that see Italy like theâ¦
Win: Dream.
Goron: America or like dream, like opportunities, which is changing right with the recent crisis.
Michael: Itâs actually very interesting because we have the same problem in Norway.
Win: Iâm seeing the same problem everywhere.
Michael: Because of the European economic agreement, itâs actually illegal to come and try to find work. But the problem is that people abused us and they come â they are just to, you know â beg for money or to steal money or steal things from others. And itâs really easy to pass the border without being controlled.
Goron: I donât think those people are bad. Itâs like poverty makes you bad.
Michael: No, Iâm not saying theyâre bad.
Win: Yeah.
Goron: If you are desperate, you feel desperate, you do something that is, like we say, illegal.
Michael: And thatâs a huge problem because in the EU right now, thereâs several countries which have poverty, and it evolves from that, I think. Itâs really hard like to create, to make everyone happy and to â I donât think itâs possible to solve the poverty matter.
So what about Vietnam?
Win: Well, the city Iâm living in is very â there is no really people who was born in the city. I mean, I was born in the city but I have roots from everywhere. And most of the people from the city is like that. We Theyâre from everywhere from the country and the city welcomes them no matter what.
So yes, we do have a problem that people keep flocking to my city to find jobs, and we have crimes and everything. But I think the fact that we have multi-origin people is one of the facts that makes the city interesting.